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  • Welcome
  • Introduction
  • The Story begins...
  • An Interview with Mr Turner
  • Model information
    • Terrier T15
    • Tiger Cub T20 >
      • 1954/55
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      • 1957
      • 1958
      • 1959
      • 1960
      • 1961/62
      • 1963-on
    • Competition Cub T20C
    • Sports Cub T20S
    • Woods Cub T20W
    • Sports Lights Cub T20SL
    • Trials Cub T20T
    • Street Scrambler T20SS
    • Scrambler T20SR/T20SC
    • Trials & Scrambler TR20/TS20
    • Sports Home Cub T20SH
    • Mountain Cub T20SM/T20M
    • War Department (T20WD/T20M WD
    • Bantam Cub T20B
    • T20B Super Cub
  • Police Machines
    • The RUC Cubs
  • Buyer's Guide
  • Resources
  • Technical
    • Machine Numbers
    • Gear Clusters
    • Front Forks
    • Front Fork Oil Change
    • Condensers
    • Finding T.D.C.
    • External Oil Filter
    • Lucas Energy Transfer
    • 12V Conversion
    • Fitting Indicators to a Tiger Cub
    • Fitting a Craven Luggage Rack
    • Spark Plugs and Sparks
    • Know your Alternator
    • Oil Pumps and Lubrication
    • PRS8 Switch Repair
    • T20 Oil Filter Kit
  • Your Stories
    • My Wee Cub
    • Denny's Terrier
    • A T20C Story
    • TR20 Cub Sorted
    • Saving Sylvia
    • My 1959 Tiger Cub
    • My First Restoration
    • Found in a Scrap Yard
    • My First Bike
    • Brand new out of the Box
    • On the Road after 40 years
    • First bike I ever Rode
    • The' Tarbuk' Conversion
    • A Tiger Cub in a Box
    • Aunt Tiny
    • Well-travelled Terrier
    • Mashooq's Tiger Cub
    • 48 Years with my Cub
    • Ready for the Arbuthnot
    • My Collection of Cubs
    • Mountain Cub and Cafe tales
    • My favourite Cub of all
    • A Cub in Norway
    • Beginning of a Terrier Restoration
    • An Ambush of Cubs
    • A T20C Cub (probably!)
    • A Moment Frozen in Time
    • Finally after 56 years!
    • Still riding Cubs after 60 years
    • A Lakeland Venture
    • Back to my Teens!
    • Terrier Tribulations!
    • Brian's Cub Special
    • Sold, Bought, Restored
    • It started with a Cub
    • A Family Connection
    • Cubs & Terriers in the Family
    • Benny's Tiger Cub
    • Tiger Cub Trials!
    • Getting my '59 Cub in '58
  • The Princeton Cubs
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    • Bonneville Speed Record
    • ISDT Success
    • Success in the Scottish
    • My 1961 International Six Days
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    • The Terror
    • Who is this?
    • Mountain Cub Mystery
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Mountain Cub Mystery
Years ago Stephan Britt had a ’64 Cub that he used for trials, but unfortunately had to sell it due to a move.
Now, after reading the TC&T Section column in the back of the TOMCC magazine 'Nacelle' over the past year or so, he's been inspired to get back into Cubs!
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He's over in the States and has recently purchased a 1967 Triumph Mountain Cub and...
...he's posed a really interesting question.
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Stephan's Cub is in Grenadier Red and Alaskan White but...
...he's hoping someone could help identify the gold and white color scheme of Bruce Brown’s Mountain Cub.

For those who don't know the story; in 1966, Bruce Brown released the film 'The Endless Summer', which cost around $50,000 to make but which raked in around $20 million at the box office.
And with an increase in his bank balance, Bruce traded in his Honda 50cc step-through for a 1967 Triumph Mountain Cub. A machine on which he explored off-road trails, raced in the desert, and eventually led to a friendship with actor/rider Steve McQueen.
The two collaborated on what, for many people (myself included), is still the greatest motorcycle film ever made - 'On Any Sunday'; with Brown directing and McQueen both producing and taking a leading role.
 
Brown owned his Mountain Cub for close on 50 years, before selling it to a close family friend shortly before his death in 2017.
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The bike hadn't been used for many years, remaining un-restored; and that is the condition it was still in when it came up for sale at a Bonhams Auction on 5th October 2019 at the Barber Motorsports Museum with just 1377 miles on the odometer. A copy of the bill of sale signed by Bruce Brown accompanied the motorcycle.
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​Now here's the Mystery - the colour scheme of Bruce's Mountain Cub!
It's a two-tone scheme, definitely not in the 'official' Grenadier Red and Alaskan White nor 'Hunting Yellow'. So what colour is it and how did it happen?
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Brown's Mountain Cub looks to be in original and un-restored condition with the fuel tank having a patina in keeping with the machine's age. There's even what looks to be an official Triumph picture of a Mountain Cub out there in the gold/white colour scheme.
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​Stephan asks whether it could be 'Burnished Gold', the paint scheme seen on the 1965 TR6 machines, as it looks to be nowhere near as metallic gold as the 'Triumph Gold' of the 1964 Bonnevilles nor the 'Tiger Gold' used on the 1971/72 Bonnevilles.

Could it have been a one-off paint scheme? But if so, where did the picture come from of the gold/white Mountain Cub?
 
He's certainly brought up an intriguing subject with the Bruce Brown machine, and here are my ideas on it, although I'm really only guessing on some of it.
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The story of how the Mountain Cub actually came into being is a really interesting one and is told in the 'Triumph Motorcycles in America' book by Lindsay Brooke and David Gaylin.
 
In late 1963, JoMo sales manager Don Brown was on a motorcycle camping trip with two Triumph dealers, and after a day's trail riding on a trio of Tiger Cubs they started discussing the sales possibilities of a Sports Cub fitted with wide-ratio gearbox, high-level exhaust, etc.
 
One of the dealers was Joe Sarkes, and Don Brown asked him if he would build a prototype and send him some photographs. Brown named it a  'Mountain Cub'.
No sooner had it appeared than orders flooded in and as a result, the Mountain Cub became an official Triumph Tiger Cub model built at the Meriden factory.
 
Those are the facts as recorded, and now here are my own thoughts on the colour scheme; although it is all supposition.
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I wonder if the picture of the Cub in the gold/white scheme is taken from one of the photographs Joe Sarkes sent through to Don Brown of the prototype Mountain Cub?
It would need to be a different colour from the standard Cubs of the time, and Triumph was already using gold and white colours in their paint schemes.
 
Triumph America used to send various paint schemes, which they thought would interest riders in the USA, to Meriden for evaluation. Could this colour have been one of them, and which then appeared as 'Burnished Gold' on some of the 1965 models?
 
The prototype Mountain Cub colours would have been sprayed perhaps early 1964, and the 1965-year Triumphs would have started to be produced around the September of '64.
Could it be that a batch of Mountain Cubs were repainted in the Gold/White scheme after they arrived in America due to popular demand from riders there?
 
Does anyone know???
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Just to confuse the issue.
Here's a picture of Bruce Brown (rider on the left) riding a Mountain Cub in the Hunting Yellow colour.

I believe he was riding to Baja, but have no other details of exactly when it was or whether it was his own machine.

Unless of course you know?
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